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Written by Duane Long   
Saturday, 01 August 2009 12:58
Penn State. I am hearing so much about the Penn State class. I went around and took a look. Paul Jones is a player I am surprised there is not more chatter about. Penn State is putting together a nice stable of athletic quarterbacks. They get this kid and Robert Bolden, a better quarterback than Devin Gardner, in the same year. Last year they get Kevin Newsome. That is the best stable in the Big Ten. Adrian Coxson is a bigtime receiver. He has good size and knows how to use his body. Strong and has good speed. Tom Ricketts impresses me. Miles Diffenbach doesn't. I have not looked at the DTs nationally but seeing Evan Hailes down at #18 on the Rivals rankings makes me want to look at them soon. He is a nice player. Explosive and strong. Finds the ball very well. Size is what prevents Mike Hull from being a five-star. He has the game of an inside linebacker, run and hit, but is not ideal sized. I think he is a little tight to be an outside linebacker. Kyle Baublitz is the 2econd best tight end in the region. Better than Alex Smith and Alex Welch. Dakota Royer reminds me of Nate Williams. It is a great looking class. It is the kind of class that will help the Big Ten rid itself of the out of conference/bowl demons.

Ohio State is #2 but I think it is much closer to an argument for #1 than most do. I think the Ohio State class is undervalued. I think Penn State and Michigan are both pretty accurate, with the few exceptions I noted. Rod Smith is a five-star kid. The best back in the country. Andrew Norwell is not a five-star kid? This is not shaping up like a great year at tackle now that I am looking at more players. Some good top end guys but not alot of depth. Norwell is one of those elite kids. David Durham is not a three-star end. He might not be an end at all but he is surely a four-star kid no matter where he lines up. It has been pointed out that the best quarterback gurus in the college game offered Taylor Graham. I have seen more of Scott McVey than others in this business. He is such a great player. Top drawer instincts and much underrated quickness. I think he has the potential to change the Star position here because he is bigger. He is not a player you are going to be nervous about him being on the field on third and three. He can stand up to it but is such a natural in pass coverage. He can do it all, and he is a player that you must block every down or he will make a play. Numbers are a bigger problem than talent. Ohio State has 9. Take Penn States best 9. I think we match-up.

I liked Michigans alot early on. Still do, but they have gotten out in front of themselves a bit. I really like D.J. Williamson but I don't know if he is a Michigan player right now. He might be after this season but right now he is not. That could be an offer that makes it worthwhile to secure a foothold in Ohio with a program that has put a few players in maize and blue. Christian Pace is another player I would put in that category. I am not sold on Gardner as a passer. He is not a four-star kid in any other system. He is a run first quarterback. When in trouble he tucks it and goes. Watching Pryor in a full game as a senior is where I became convinced he is a quarterback. When the pocket broke down he still kept his head up, looking for a receiver. In the Michigan offense the QB tucking and running is not plan B. On the other hand I think Antonio Kinard could be a steal. He is a big athletic kid who can run. I think it more likely he makes his mark as a DE than an LB. He is highly likely to get a good deal bigger. Courtney Avery is a steal. flat out. No could be in there for him. Ken Wilkins is not the most athletic kid but he has really good straight line speed, strong and has a great body. He is a really good looking strong side DE prospect. Ricardo Miller and Jerald Robinson are big time athletes. Rivals has a four-star on both and it is well earned.

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written by O-State, August 01, 2009
What do you think of MSU's and Illinois'?
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written by DHOS, August 01, 2009
I don't like kinard as a linebacker at all...way too stiff. They need to put him down at the weakside end spot and let him get after it on every play. If they try to move him around too much, it won't work.
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written by JP, August 02, 2009
I'd think MSU's stable of QBs right now match up pretty well with PSU.

Two soph QBs, Nichol was Elite 11, incoming frosh Elite 11 in Maxwell and Elite 11 recruit in Boisture.
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written by Bobby, August 02, 2009
I don't see PSU keeping all three of those young QBs happy with PT. I bet one of them flys the coop.
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written by c_woodson, August 02, 2009
Not sold on Gardner? Have you not heard about his performance at the Elite 11? Here is an example of what people are saying:

Big, tall, strong-armed quarterback that is willing to put in the time to be the best. Gardner will eventually have the ability to take over a college game by himself using his arm and his legs, similar to guys like Jason Campbell, Vince Young and Terrelle Pryor. His potential and learning curve are just starting to increase exponentially. We could be looking at a future first-round draft pick in five years. And yes, I strongly believe he is a top100 player.
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written by a guest, August 02, 2009
Cwoods, the flip side to that is he WASN"T named MVP by the coaches or tabbed in the top 5 by the Elite11 coaches. Nor was he named by any of the players to any of their awards.

It seemed some sideline reporter like his performance more than everyone else. Not knocking the kid but that report seems a little odd based on all the other information out there. However, maybe the kid will blow up senior year and show what the reporter saw.
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written by c_woodson, August 02, 2009
There are plenty reports out there about Gardner's performance, not just this one. He also won the award for best in the classroom and for best feet.

Blow up his senior year? Did you not see his junior year stats? He is rated in the top 60 or so on Scout.com and I am sure he will move into the top 100 on the next Rivals rankings.

Another report on Gardner:

After coming back from the Elite 11 last night, I rewatched tape of Devin Gardner. This isn't the same quarterback that teams saw a year ago. If I only had junior film to judge him on, I'd push to have him moved to another position. What I see out there now, while still raw, is a big framed quarterback that holds his own, in some cases, exceeds his Elite 11 counterparts in a camp that showcases pure passing skills.

Gardner is quick in his release on the short routes. There is very little time between when he decides where he's throwing and when the ball arrives at its target. His release lengthens considerably when he's loading up to throw the ball downfield, and it gives defenders a split second longer to recover. Once he learns to trust his arm strength, and keep his compact throwing motion, he'll force teams to stay honest and guard the deep third of the defense.

On his first rep in the 7v7, Gardner showed his ability to put pressure on the back of a defense with a corner route where he deftly dropped it beyond the safeties reach and over the shoulder of his target.

He gets depth on his seven step drops very easily as one might expect with his athleticism. His quick drop allows him some extra time to scan the field from a "ready" position, rather than the moment longer it might take another quarterback to reach his seven step drop. After his seven step drop, Gardner threw a rope on a crossing route that was his best throw of the camp.
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written by Duane Long, August 03, 2009
There are plenty reports out there about Gardner's performance, not just this one. He also won the award for best in the classroom and for best feet.

Blow up his senior year? Did you not see his junior year stats? He is rated in the top 60 or so on Scout.com and I am sure he will move into the top 100 on the next Rivals rankings.

Another report on Gardner:

After coming back from the Elite 11 last night, I rewatched tape of Devin Gardner. This isn't the same quarterback that teams saw a year ago. If I only had junior film to judge him on, I'd push to have him moved to another position. What I see out there now, while still raw, is a big framed quarterback that holds his own, in some cases, exceeds his Elite 11 counterparts in a camp that showcases pure passing skills.

Gardner is quick in his release on the short routes. There is very little time between when he decides where he's throwing and when the ball arrives at its target. His release lengthens considerably when he's loading up to throw the ball downfield, and it gives defenders a split second longer to recover. Once he learns to trust his arm strength, and keep his compact throwing motion, he'll force teams to stay honest and guard the deep third of the defense.

On his first rep in the 7v7, Gardner showed his ability to put pressure on the back of a defense with a corner route where he deftly dropped it beyond the safeties reach and over the shoulder of his target.

He gets depth on his seven step drops very easily as one might expect with his athleticism. His quick drop allows him some extra time to scan the field from a "ready" position, rather than the moment longer it might take another quarterback to reach his seven step drop. After his seven step drop, Gardner threw a rope on a crossing route that was his best throw of the camp.



First, glad to see you over here.

I see quotes. Who is saying all this?
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written by c_woodson, August 03, 2009
I've seen it on just about every recruiting site. ESPN, Scout and Rivals are all reporting that Gardner is not the same QB we saw on film last year.

Two awards he was given at the camp were from the camp counselors and staff. The other stuff is being said by the recruiting "gurus" mostly. I know Every from Rivals ranked him as the #1 QB at the camp. Scott Kennedy from Scout is where the last quotes came from. From what I have heard he has transformed himself into a legit QB through nothing but hard work. That is what I like most about this kid, he wants to be the best and he is willing to put in the work.
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written by Bob, August 04, 2009
I've seen it on just about every recruiting site. ESPN, Scout and Rivals are all reporting that Gardner is not the same QB we saw on film last year.

Two awards he was given at the camp were from the camp counselors and staff. The other stuff is being said by the recruiting "gurus" mostly. I know Every from Rivals ranked him as the #1 QB at the camp. Scott Kennedy from Scout is where the last quotes came from. From what I have heard he has transformed himself into a legit QB through nothing but hard work. That is what I like most about this kid, he wants to be the best and he is willing to put in the work.


Who cares? There's an obvious reason OSU didn't offer Gardner -- he's clearly not a good QB. He's an athlete at the quarterback position. Ho-hum.
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written by a guest, August 05, 2009
I've seen it on just about every recruiting site. ESPN, Scout and Rivals are all reporting that Gardner is not the same QB we saw on film last year.

Two awards he was given at the camp were from the camp counselors and staff. The other stuff is being said by the recruiting "gurus" mostly. I know Every from Rivals ranked him as the #1 QB at the camp. Scott Kennedy from Scout is where the last quotes came from. From what I have heard he has transformed himself into a legit QB through nothing but hard work. That is what I like most about this kid, he wants to be the best and he is willing to put in the work.


Who cares? There's an obvious reason OSU didn't offer Gardner -- he's clearly not a good QB. He's an athlete at the quarterback position. Ho-hum.


Kinda like Pryor?
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written by Kasino Royale, August 05, 2009
Cwoods glad to see you here finally.

Maybe the kid has improved, the good thing we'll have all senior year to be proved right or wrong.
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