There is an article posted that he's expecting to make his decision between FSU and OSU "soon". What are your feelings? We've been in the mix the entire time, but he lists FSU as his "dream school", and often being in the same state as the dream tends to favor that school. I'd love to see this kind come in and take over a safety spot, and just lay the wood on opposing players. In a year or two, once the 2008-2010 classes mature, we could really see something special again in the backfield. I think he could really be a big part of that.

There is an article posted that he's expecting to make his decision between FSU and OSU "soon". What are your feelings? We've been in the mix the entire time, but he lists FSU as his "dream school", and often being in the same state as the dream tends to favor that school. I'd love to see this kind come in and take over a safety spot, and just lay the wood on opposing players. In a year or two, once the 2008-2010 classes mature, we could really see something special again in the backfield. I think he could really be a big part of that.

I know alot of people are excited about him coming here but he likes an instate school about as much. I think it could break either way but with a gun to my head I need to see him say no to an instate school that he really likes.

B) If we sign him as a safety, then we can get away with signing 3 DBs instead of 4.

his 40 was 4.35 at the scout combine (shuttle was 4.53)

his 40 was 4.35 at the scout combine (shuttle was 4.53)

I did not see anything about that. Rivals still has him with a 4.53 forty.

his 40 was 4.35 at the scout combine (shuttle was 4.53)

I did not see anything about that. Rivals still has him with a 4.53 forty.

i saw that too (rivals has 4.53 for both 40 and shuttle). obviously who knows with reported 40 times, but my guess based on the scout combine time and joyners general reputation for blazing speed (in one of the rivals clips he catches a full go jamal berry from behind) that he is faster than 4.53 would imply.

not that i disagree with your central point as to where he should play - what you write makes sense to me regardless. he does hit huge for a pretty small guy.

Hagen is listed with 4.29 Forty. Bigger kid and much more likely to be in this class than Joyner.

Rivals uses electronic timing. Just watch LJ's highlight vid. He plays like a 4.30 player.

If that 4.53 shuttle is legit, that is pretty bad for a corner. Or anyone that's not a lineman for that matter.

I may be wrong but I would say teh reason Anderson has no offer is the staff really believes they'll land Hagan and Bryant. And has a 50/50 chance with Joyner. That would be three safeties. Plus with Rodgers there is another DB we have a legit shot with. Would say teh staff wants to see what happens with these guys first.

his 40 was 4.35 at the scout combine (shuttle was 4.53)

I did not see anything about that. Rivals still has him with a 4.53 forty.

i saw that too (rivals has 4.53 for both 40 and shuttle). obviously who knows with reported 40 times, but my guess based on the scout combine time and joyners general reputation for blazing speed (in one of the rivals clips he catches a full go jamal berry from behind) that he is faster than 4.53 would imply.

not that i disagree with your central point as to where he should play - what you write makes sense to me regardless. he does hit huge for a pretty small guy.

Notice I said he plays faster than he times. I like seeing a confirming 40 time but ever since I saw Mario Manningham outrun everyone on the field but could not put up a forty time that was respectable enough to post publicly I have become more interested in playing speed. Joyner looks like the fastest player on the field in every clip.

One other thing to remember when you think about corner size, etc., is that with so many teams running the spread, you need corners that are big enough to take on a blocker and either make a tackle or stretch out the bubble screen.

Small corners against bigger outside wide-outs is what allows the receiver to get to the outside and up the field.

On the other hand, safeties are being matched up more on the smaller slot receivers.

If that 4.53 shuttle is legit, that is pretty bad for a corner. Or anyone that's not a lineman for that matter.

Come off it. If that 4.53 is legit, the shuttle time has lost a lot of meaning. Watch the freaking tape. He's an incredible athlete.

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I noticed that Joyner is only listed at 5'9 and about 165 lbs. Isn't this short to be effective against tall receivers? Despite this, I did watch his film and noticed that he hits like a mack truck.