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Written by Duane Long   
Tuesday, 10 November 2009 13:04

I have watched the Penn State game again. Not the entire game. Just the defense. I wanted to watch Cam Heywards performance one more time. I will say that his performance in this game was better than Gohlston versus Michigan because of the across the board domination. He lined up at both end spots and at tackle. He played as well versus the pass as Gohlston did but much better against the run. I can't remember a better performance by a Buckeye lineman. I know there have been alot of games between now and when Big Daddy destroyed Washington in a nationally televised night game but off the top of my head that is the last time I can come up with a performance to match Heyward on Saturday.

His time at tackle is what stands out. It is going to be remembered by NFL people. He can play the weakside pretty well at the college level but it is as strong side, whether base or five-technique, where Heyward is getting looked at. That he showed he could slide down to tackle is huge for him. That versatility is going to make him that much more appealing to the NFL. That he can play very well down there was important, but just as important, he was willing to make the move for the team. An NFL team could draft him to play strong side end and move him to tackle on certain downs, or move him to tackle a few years down the road when he slows down a little. It appears he is not going to complain.

I hear he is leaning toward staying but I doubt he has all the facts yet. The problem for us is someone is going to explain the new collective bargaining agreement between the NFL and the players union to the draft eligible third year players and we are going to see players leave because of it. The good news is we will see less players leave early to make the money after the new rookie salary cap is put in place. The incentive to leave will be cut. How dramatically remains to be seen but the NFL players association is not going to bat for guys who have never played a down in the NFL. The owners want it and the players could not care less. It is just a bargaining tool right now. This will be the last draft before the new agreement gets hammered out. For this reason I think we need to hold our breath until the deadline passes.

I still believe in the current depth chart. I think we have the rotation with Larimore, Simon, Goebbel and Bellamy. I hear he is coming along nicely. Don't forget Robert Rose. He could be back. I wrote him off too quickly. He always gets my attention when he is in the game. He is looking fully recovered and is playing well. The lack of reps shows. he may never be what he could have been if he could have stayed healthy but sticking around is in his best interest and ours.

What we have seen this year, magnified by the performance by Heyward from the tackle spot, is how important it is to have strong tackle play. Worthington and Denlinger never were ideal sized but I thought they could do what they did this year because of experience. Larimore is a bear to deal with. We are talking about Heyward and Gibson and Williams with the big plays and the pass rush but those three in the middle is why this defense has become so stout. We need to maintain that. I have always said there is no such thing as too many bigs who can run.

I love what I am hearing about Hankins and Floyd. I keep hearing the negatives about Hankins. All I know is his tape is very impressive. He plays with a motor. That he takes plays off is overblown. He will get in better shape and be able to stay in the game longer but the simple fact is we see everyone wanting a rotation on the defensive line because it is so tiring. Hankins was talking alot, including saying repeatedly that Ohio State was his favorite. He has gone silent. Players with grade issues tend to do that. Look at Ty Williams this year. If he makes the grade I feel confident that Hankins will be a Buckeye.

Things have gone from solid to good to now, which I would call great, for Floyd. If he does not visit Penn State, that will tell us something. Get very excited about him if Penn State is not one of his final two visits.



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written by RipsManifesto, November 10, 2009
Has it been blown out of proportion that Floyd supposedly decided to delay taking his final two official visits right after visiting OSU?
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written by GregLee2000, November 10, 2009
we gotta get 1 of those 2 DT's. Both would be nice.
floyd, hankins, big DTs
written by Tibor04, November 10, 2009
the pocket-collapsing, run-stuffing DT is the most pivotal position in college football, next to the QB, in my opinion. i am leery that we will go into next season without one. however, if we get floyd and hankins, then i will be much more confident that we can play for the national championship against the likes of alabama, florida, and usc, even though they are frosh. fingers crossed we get floyd.
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written by Jim S, November 10, 2009
Duane,

Can any of those 4 DTs you listed for next year play SDE? If not, who takes Cam's place? I thought Rose wasn't eligible for a 5th year because he played too many games each year?
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written by mab, November 10, 2009
Jim asked a great question. From what I have seen, Simon looks like he would be a perfect fit for the Cam role. He has looked like a player who could disrupt an office from a SDE, DT, or DE in a 3-4 type defense like the one we have been running the last few years.

What do you think Duane? Does Simon have the potential/skill set to play a similar role in our defense as Cam does now? He seems to have the power, speed and motor to be able to fill the role.

Without a player who can slide inside and outside effectively, would OSU be forced to abandon the 3-4 (stand-up DE) look we have run? We had to abandon it for a few years after 2002 when we didn't have the players to run it and it seemed like the key was the Darrion Scott/Cam Heyward type of player.

Thanks
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written by pula, November 10, 2009
Didn't last week's game emphasize the importance of controlling the lines. It is great that OSU stockpiles this great Lber talent, but without DTs to allow them to roam, their effectiveness is stunted. Along with OL, DT is the position I am most concerned about. If we miss on guys at these two positions I don' think we'll be competing for a NC.
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written by RipsManifesto, November 10, 2009
I kind of wonder if Corey Adams saw the impact Simon is having so early and wonders 'what if'. Ah well.
Couple questions
written by John Colosimo, November 10, 2009
Duane, What about Lindsay?

Also, how would Rose come back, is he eligible for a 5th year?
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written by Duane Long, November 10, 2009
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written by Jim S, November 10, 2009
Duane,

Can any of those 4 DTs you listed for next year play SDE? If not, who takes Cam's place? I thought Rose wasn't eligible for a 5th year because he played too many games each year?


I think Simon is the one who could step out there and play the strong side. He is strong, has great balance and plays so smart. He is an undersized guy but makes up for it with an impressive football mind. He always seems to make the right play. A little more athletic than I thought he would be.
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written by Duane Long, November 10, 2009
Couple questions
written by John Colosimo, November 10, 2009
Duane, What about Lindsay?

Also, how would Rose come back, is he eligible for a 5th year?


Linsley is a name I had not thought about. I really liked him as a DT. I don't think he is a strong side end but he could be an option should they want to play Simon more at end.

From what I am hearing about Rose, yes.
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written by Duane Long, November 10, 2009
What do you think Duane? Does Simon have the potential/skill set to play a similar role in our defense as Cam does now? He seems to have the power, speed and motor to be able to fill the role.

Without a player who can slide inside and outside effectively, would OSU be forced to abandon the 3-4 (stand-up DE) look we have run? We had to abandon it for a few years after 2002 when we didn't have the players to run it and it seemed like the key was the Darrion Scott/Cam Heyward type of player.


It is not so much being able to slide inside and outside so much as it is being able to hold the point of attack but still be quick enough to pass rush effectively and run down the line of scrimmage on outside plays. I think Simon could fit the bill.
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written by NorthCoaster, November 11, 2009
Simon is having a great year no doubt, however he is a kid who may not get a ton better over the years. Some guys get to college and haven't lifted weights, haven't eaten right, don't know how to practice. This kid showed up doing all those things (and that's to his credit). If he became another Tim Anderson that would be awesome ... but he's never going to be a Cam Heyward, Big Daddy Wilkinson.
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written by mab, November 11, 2009
NorthCoaster,
I will never claim to be a great evaluator of football talent and your comments make sense to me...but I hope you are wrong since it would be awesome if he did become a Big Daddy type player - DT's of that caliber are rare!!!!
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written by scull7, November 11, 2009
I wouldn't count out Simon growing into something special. Just because he's been lifting and doing the right things correctly all along doesn't mean his body is done growing. The kid is only 18 or 19 and I know that I gained about 35 pounds of good weight (not the flabby kind) over my frosh and junior years of college. Plus Dex started out @ around 265 - 270 and look where he is now. Also, doesn't anyone remember the pictures of his dad? He's definitely got the genes.

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